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	<title>Comments on: Virtual Assistant Rates- An Interesting Debate</title>
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		<title>By: Shari</title>
		<link>http://www.vademogirl.com/virtual-assistant-rates-an-interesting-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-451</link>
		<dc:creator>Shari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an interesting debate and I&#039;m glad I came across it. 

My feeling regarding rates is that they should be based on the complexity of the task but also the involvement of the VA from beginning to end. For instance, if your client feels that SEO should be charged at $200 per hour then to me that implies the VA should be responsible for planning and executing the process with little input from the client other than to provide some keyword phrases. 

A VA takes instruction from her client and if she is going to charge $200 per hour for SEO services then she is more of a consultant rather than a VA. (That&#039;s my opinion)

I use the example of SEO because that is my niche service and one I excel at, but not enough to set up shop as an SEO expert consultant. Not yet. I am a virtual assistant with the emphasis on &quot;assistant&quot;. I will execute the SEO plan put forth by my clients but I don&#039;t devise their entire SEO strategy from beginning to end. That&#039;s why I only charge $55 per hour right now. My services are all bundled together under one flat fee. 

Still, your post has got me thinking Michelle. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an interesting debate and I&#8217;m glad I came across it. </p>
<p>My feeling regarding rates is that they should be based on the complexity of the task but also the involvement of the VA from beginning to end. For instance, if your client feels that SEO should be charged at $200 per hour then to me that implies the VA should be responsible for planning and executing the process with little input from the client other than to provide some keyword phrases. </p>
<p>A VA takes instruction from her client and if she is going to charge $200 per hour for SEO services then she is more of a consultant rather than a VA. (That&#8217;s my opinion)</p>
<p>I use the example of SEO because that is my niche service and one I excel at, but not enough to set up shop as an SEO expert consultant. Not yet. I am a virtual assistant with the emphasis on &#8220;assistant&#8221;. I will execute the SEO plan put forth by my clients but I don&#8217;t devise their entire SEO strategy from beginning to end. That&#8217;s why I only charge $55 per hour right now. My services are all bundled together under one flat fee. </p>
<p>Still, your post has got me thinking Michelle. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Stacy Brice</title>
		<link>http://www.vademogirl.com/virtual-assistant-rates-an-interesting-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-350</link>
		<dc:creator>Stacy Brice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 20:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are VA services, and then there are other services. Sometimes, VAs do a bunch of different things, none of them to an especially high/expert level. And there, I think they’re dead to rights to bundle them all under one roof and fee structure.

But I believe that VAs do themselves a disservice when they bundle their truly advanced skills (like in SEO and copywriting) with their regular VA services. 

If VAs would create different &quot;divisions&quot; of their businesses based on the advanced skills (nothing says someone can&#039;t be a VA, and also a copywriter, for instance!), they could have multiple streams of revenue, different markets to serve, and cross-promotion possibilities for their own divisions.

It&#039;s just an example of one smart, clean, clear business model that maximizes skills and revenues!

I wrote a Virtual Moxie post about it that you/your readers might find helpful. That’s here: http://www.virtualmoxie.com/2008/07/more-on-what-a.html

Now, on the lower end (emailing and such), it would seem that paying a VA her regular fee for something like that isn&#039;t &quot;worth it&quot; to some segment of the clients, but that thinking is short-sighted. 

What they fail to realize is that partnering with a VA, and letting her handle *everything*--from the tiniest, simplest detail, to the biggest specialized project--is smart, and where the power is. If the VA is allowed deeply into the business, and understands how all the pieces fit together, she’s much faster at the little things, and more helpful with the bigger things. Then, she can either do it all, or get it all handled. Bottom line, things get managed, the client’s needs are met, and he doesn’t have to figure out who to call when he needs something. He has the ultimate resource and support partner—his VA.

If you want, have your client call me. I’ll set him straight ;) J/k, Michelle… I feel quite certain you took good care of it on your own!

Thanks for a great post, and conversation!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are VA services, and then there are other services. Sometimes, VAs do a bunch of different things, none of them to an especially high/expert level. And there, I think they’re dead to rights to bundle them all under one roof and fee structure.</p>
<p>But I believe that VAs do themselves a disservice when they bundle their truly advanced skills (like in SEO and copywriting) with their regular VA services. </p>
<p>If VAs would create different &#8220;divisions&#8221; of their businesses based on the advanced skills (nothing says someone can&#8217;t be a VA, and also a copywriter, for instance!), they could have multiple streams of revenue, different markets to serve, and cross-promotion possibilities for their own divisions.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just an example of one smart, clean, clear business model that maximizes skills and revenues!</p>
<p>I wrote a Virtual Moxie post about it that you/your readers might find helpful. That’s here: <a href="http://www.virtualmoxie.com/2008/07/more-on-what-a.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.virtualmoxie.com/2008/07/more-on-what-a.html</a></p>
<p>Now, on the lower end (emailing and such), it would seem that paying a VA her regular fee for something like that isn&#8217;t &#8220;worth it&#8221; to some segment of the clients, but that thinking is short-sighted. </p>
<p>What they fail to realize is that partnering with a VA, and letting her handle *everything*&#8211;from the tiniest, simplest detail, to the biggest specialized project&#8211;is smart, and where the power is. If the VA is allowed deeply into the business, and understands how all the pieces fit together, she’s much faster at the little things, and more helpful with the bigger things. Then, she can either do it all, or get it all handled. Bottom line, things get managed, the client’s needs are met, and he doesn’t have to figure out who to call when he needs something. He has the ultimate resource and support partner—his VA.</p>
<p>If you want, have your client call me. I’ll set him straight <img src='http://www.vademogirl.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  J/k, Michelle… I feel quite certain you took good care of it on your own!</p>
<p>Thanks for a great post, and conversation!</p>
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		<title>By: Angela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, I have to agree with your client but I don&#039;t think the issue is price, I think it&#039;s confidence.

I think as VAs and moms and new entrepreneurs we often think we&#039;re not &#039;REAL&#039; business owners, we&#039;re afraid to charge what we&#039;re worth and we&#039;re not running our businesses like real businesses. 

Now of course that doesn&#039;t apply to all VAs but women as a group in general seem to feel really guiltly about actually making GOOD money from their skills!

Here&#039;s another issue I&#039;ve come across for myself. I was trying to be all things to all people. I didn&#039;t want to tell a client &#039;I can&#039;t do that&#039; so I was doing everything and anything internet marketing. 

Honestly, though, this was doing a dis-service to my client and also myself. Because we can&#039;t be great at everything. 

Michelle, I think it&#039;s really great how you&#039;ve niched yourself in video and are becoming well recognized as the VA expert in that area. I&#039;ve also niched my service into Affiliate Marketing only (which means I&#039;m not really a VA anymore but an Affiliate Manager) and have committed myself to learning everything I can about the industry and bringing that to my clients.

Ok, this is like a novel here but I also see it being a result of the &#039;4-Hour Work Week&#039;. A lot of people looking for a VA think they can get all kinds of things they want done for their business for $5 and hour and so I think some VAs who are trying to work for the internet marketer believe they need to compete with that.

Another note about different pricing for different tasks. I think it may help clients really put projects into perspective and allow more time and planning as required for bigger tasks. I mean, you&#039;re not going to pay a copywriter $500/hr unless you REALLY know what you want. 

Anyway, very interesting topic and I&#039;d love to hear other opinions too!
Angela</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I have to agree with your client but I don&#8217;t think the issue is price, I think it&#8217;s confidence.</p>
<p>I think as VAs and moms and new entrepreneurs we often think we&#8217;re not &#8216;REAL&#8217; business owners, we&#8217;re afraid to charge what we&#8217;re worth and we&#8217;re not running our businesses like real businesses. </p>
<p>Now of course that doesn&#8217;t apply to all VAs but women as a group in general seem to feel really guiltly about actually making GOOD money from their skills!</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s another issue I&#8217;ve come across for myself. I was trying to be all things to all people. I didn&#8217;t want to tell a client &#8216;I can&#8217;t do that&#8217; so I was doing everything and anything internet marketing. </p>
<p>Honestly, though, this was doing a dis-service to my client and also myself. Because we can&#8217;t be great at everything. </p>
<p>Michelle, I think it&#8217;s really great how you&#8217;ve niched yourself in video and are becoming well recognized as the VA expert in that area. I&#8217;ve also niched my service into Affiliate Marketing only (which means I&#8217;m not really a VA anymore but an Affiliate Manager) and have committed myself to learning everything I can about the industry and bringing that to my clients.</p>
<p>Ok, this is like a novel here but I also see it being a result of the &#8217;4-Hour Work Week&#8217;. A lot of people looking for a VA think they can get all kinds of things they want done for their business for $5 and hour and so I think some VAs who are trying to work for the internet marketer believe they need to compete with that.</p>
<p>Another note about different pricing for different tasks. I think it may help clients really put projects into perspective and allow more time and planning as required for bigger tasks. I mean, you&#8217;re not going to pay a copywriter $500/hr unless you REALLY know what you want. </p>
<p>Anyway, very interesting topic and I&#8217;d love to hear other opinions too!<br />
Angela</p>
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		<title>By: Monique Terrell</title>
		<link>http://www.vademogirl.com/virtual-assistant-rates-an-interesting-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-339</link>
		<dc:creator>Monique Terrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 17:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that there are cases where VA&#039;s are losing money but I believe that the key is the target audience. Some audiences are not ready for the deep prices and some are. 

So I think you have to look at not only what your serving but who your serving when it comes to pricing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that there are cases where VA&#8217;s are losing money but I believe that the key is the target audience. Some audiences are not ready for the deep prices and some are. </p>
<p>So I think you have to look at not only what your serving but who your serving when it comes to pricing.</p>
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		<title>By: Christina Lemmey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christina Lemmey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 04:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michelle,

I whole heartedly agree that VAs are losing money by not charging enough to their clients. Part of that is due to undervaluing their time and knowledge and education can help many VAs overcome that particular problem. 

However, the VAs hourly or flat rate is largely driven by the markets each VA serves. What an established marketing expert can pay for copywriting is drastically different from what a new work-at-home mom can pay (as an example).

I&#039;d love to hear more debate on the subject!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michelle,</p>
<p>I whole heartedly agree that VAs are losing money by not charging enough to their clients. Part of that is due to undervaluing their time and knowledge and education can help many VAs overcome that particular problem. </p>
<p>However, the VAs hourly or flat rate is largely driven by the markets each VA serves. What an established marketing expert can pay for copywriting is drastically different from what a new work-at-home mom can pay (as an example).</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to hear more debate on the subject!</p>
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